Thou shalt not kill.
From the "Asian Anne Coulter," Michelle Malkin, comes this smear of a witness to some bad stuff that went on while he was in Iraq.
"Bob Herbert's gushing profile of conscientious objector Aidan Delgado has many astute observers asking questions. [ Expiring minds want to know!]
Lorie Byrd is investigating and is asking anyone who might have served with Delgado--especially those in the 320th MP Company, St. Petersburg, Fla.--to contact her. "
They're investigating. Better watch out Delgado! We definatly have to get on this guy.
He claims that when he was at Abu Ghraib in 2003, "the violence there was sickening. Some inmates were beaten nearly to death." He confronted a Sgt. who he said had killed a detainee during a prisoner disturbance. He asked him, "if he was proud that he had shot unarmed men behind barbed wire for throwing stones. He didn't get mad at all. He was, like, 'Well, I saw them bloody my buddy's nose, so I knelt down. I said a prayer. I stood up, and I shot them down."
Michelle and her bunch of right wing misfits better get right on this; someone might find out things weren't on the up and up at Abu Ghraib.
She links someone named "Sgt. Ted" who has "been there and done that" and he knows what's up.
"This Delgado guy was a mechanic; he was no where near those compounds. I also highly doubt he "confronted" the SGT who fired; he wouldn't have even known who he was. Different unit, not working anywhere near the compounds."
Well, that's that. One good American's word against a C.O. End of story.
Why do the likes of Malkin have to always smear those that guestion our role in Iraq? Even the late Col. David Hackworth get's only a grudging respect, because he thought our guys were getting a raw deal from Bush and Co.
God knows what they would think of General Smedley Butler who wrote the book "War is a racket" and is best known for writing of his career in the Marines (During which he won the Congressional Medal of Honor twice along with the Distinguished service medal) that he:
"...helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-12. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras "right" for American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested.... Looking back on it, I felt I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three city districts. We Marines operated on three continents."
Before there was such a thing as PTSD he recounted seeing the horrible cost of war on the mind:
"In the government hospital in Marion, Indiana, 1,800 of these boys are in pens! Five hundred of them in a barracks with steel barsand wires all around outside the buildings and on the porches.These already have been mentally destroyed. These boys don't evenlook like human beings. Oh, the looks on their faces! Physically,they are in good shape; mentally, they are gone."
Dirty communist! There's no way he was in Marion Indiana on the day he said he was. I was there I did that.
Believe it or not, there are real American's out there who think that wars of choice are wrong and un-American.
Ulyssis S. Grant fought in the Mexican War (1846-48) but thought it was wrong. He was a "drunk," though, right?
"To this day regard the war [with Mexico] which resulted as one of the most unjust ever waged by a stronger against a weaker nation. It was an instance of a republic following the bad example of European monarchies, in not considering justice in their desire to acquire additional territory.
Even if the annexation itself could be justified, the manner in which the subsequent war was forced upon Mexico cannot.
Nations, like individuals, are punished for their transgressions. We got our punishment in the most sanguinary and expensive war of modern times. " [He means the Civil War.]
Abraham Lincoln ( The party of Bush) as a congressman from Illinois said of the Mexican War:
"Allow the President to invade a neighboring nation whenever he shall deem it necessary to repel an invasion, and you allow him to do so whenever he may choose to say he deems it necessary for such purpose, and you allow him to make war at pleasure. Study to see if you can fix any limit to his power in this respect, after having given him so much as you propose. If to-day he should choose to say he thinks it necessary to invade Canada to prevent the British from invading us, how could you stop him? You may say to him,--"I see no probability of the British invading us"; but he will say to you, "Be silent: I see it, if you don't."
Looks like he was right. The "defenders of liberty," though, don't see it that way. Now all of a sudden, it's okay for a president to do whatever he feels like doing without having to bother to ask congress, or the people or anyone else. Just trust him.
If you stand in the way you'd better heed General Grant:
"Once initiated there were but few public men who would have the courage to oppose it. [A War.]Experience proves that the man who obstructs a war in which his nation is engaged, no matter whether right or wrong, occupies no enviable place in life or history. Better for him, individually, to advocate “war, pestilence, and famine,” than to act as obstructionist to a war already begun."
Here are some other real American's who believe as Lincoln and Grant did, that preemptive war is wrong and are suffering the slings and arrows of outrageous accusations from the advocates of "war, pestilence, and famine."
Military families against the war: Military families speak out: Gold Star Families: Code Pink:
The Veterans Against the Iraq War whose statement of purpose says:
"...We do not believe that the American military can or should be used as the police force of the world by any administration, Republican or Democrat. Consequently, we believe that the lives and well being of our nation's soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines should not be squandered or sacrificed for causes other than in the direct defense of our people and nation.
Iraq Veterans Against the war.
The Center on Conscience and War in Washington, D.C.,
There are many organizations out there to help the GI who wants to get out.
The GI Hotline; The Central Committee for Consciencious Objectors.
Remember that obscure quote from the Ten Commandments? What was it?
"Thou shalt not kill!"
"Bob Herbert's gushing profile of conscientious objector Aidan Delgado has many astute observers asking questions. [ Expiring minds want to know!]
Lorie Byrd is investigating and is asking anyone who might have served with Delgado--especially those in the 320th MP Company, St. Petersburg, Fla.--to contact her. "
They're investigating. Better watch out Delgado! We definatly have to get on this guy.
He claims that when he was at Abu Ghraib in 2003, "the violence there was sickening. Some inmates were beaten nearly to death." He confronted a Sgt. who he said had killed a detainee during a prisoner disturbance. He asked him, "if he was proud that he had shot unarmed men behind barbed wire for throwing stones. He didn't get mad at all. He was, like, 'Well, I saw them bloody my buddy's nose, so I knelt down. I said a prayer. I stood up, and I shot them down."
Michelle and her bunch of right wing misfits better get right on this; someone might find out things weren't on the up and up at Abu Ghraib.
She links someone named "Sgt. Ted" who has "been there and done that" and he knows what's up.
"This Delgado guy was a mechanic; he was no where near those compounds. I also highly doubt he "confronted" the SGT who fired; he wouldn't have even known who he was. Different unit, not working anywhere near the compounds."
Well, that's that. One good American's word against a C.O. End of story.
Why do the likes of Malkin have to always smear those that guestion our role in Iraq? Even the late Col. David Hackworth get's only a grudging respect, because he thought our guys were getting a raw deal from Bush and Co.
God knows what they would think of General Smedley Butler who wrote the book "War is a racket" and is best known for writing of his career in the Marines (During which he won the Congressional Medal of Honor twice along with the Distinguished service medal) that he:
"...helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-12. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras "right" for American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested.... Looking back on it, I felt I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three city districts. We Marines operated on three continents."
Before there was such a thing as PTSD he recounted seeing the horrible cost of war on the mind:
"In the government hospital in Marion, Indiana, 1,800 of these boys are in pens! Five hundred of them in a barracks with steel barsand wires all around outside the buildings and on the porches.These already have been mentally destroyed. These boys don't evenlook like human beings. Oh, the looks on their faces! Physically,they are in good shape; mentally, they are gone."
Dirty communist! There's no way he was in Marion Indiana on the day he said he was. I was there I did that.
Believe it or not, there are real American's out there who think that wars of choice are wrong and un-American.
Ulyssis S. Grant fought in the Mexican War (1846-48) but thought it was wrong. He was a "drunk," though, right?
"To this day regard the war [with Mexico] which resulted as one of the most unjust ever waged by a stronger against a weaker nation. It was an instance of a republic following the bad example of European monarchies, in not considering justice in their desire to acquire additional territory.
Even if the annexation itself could be justified, the manner in which the subsequent war was forced upon Mexico cannot.
Nations, like individuals, are punished for their transgressions. We got our punishment in the most sanguinary and expensive war of modern times. " [He means the Civil War.]
Abraham Lincoln ( The party of Bush) as a congressman from Illinois said of the Mexican War:
"Allow the President to invade a neighboring nation whenever he shall deem it necessary to repel an invasion, and you allow him to do so whenever he may choose to say he deems it necessary for such purpose, and you allow him to make war at pleasure. Study to see if you can fix any limit to his power in this respect, after having given him so much as you propose. If to-day he should choose to say he thinks it necessary to invade Canada to prevent the British from invading us, how could you stop him? You may say to him,--"I see no probability of the British invading us"; but he will say to you, "Be silent: I see it, if you don't."
Looks like he was right. The "defenders of liberty," though, don't see it that way. Now all of a sudden, it's okay for a president to do whatever he feels like doing without having to bother to ask congress, or the people or anyone else. Just trust him.
If you stand in the way you'd better heed General Grant:
"Once initiated there were but few public men who would have the courage to oppose it. [A War.]Experience proves that the man who obstructs a war in which his nation is engaged, no matter whether right or wrong, occupies no enviable place in life or history. Better for him, individually, to advocate “war, pestilence, and famine,” than to act as obstructionist to a war already begun."
Here are some other real American's who believe as Lincoln and Grant did, that preemptive war is wrong and are suffering the slings and arrows of outrageous accusations from the advocates of "war, pestilence, and famine."
Military families against the war: Military families speak out: Gold Star Families: Code Pink:
The Veterans Against the Iraq War whose statement of purpose says:
"...We do not believe that the American military can or should be used as the police force of the world by any administration, Republican or Democrat. Consequently, we believe that the lives and well being of our nation's soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines should not be squandered or sacrificed for causes other than in the direct defense of our people and nation.
Iraq Veterans Against the war.
The Center on Conscience and War in Washington, D.C.,
There are many organizations out there to help the GI who wants to get out.
The GI Hotline; The Central Committee for Consciencious Objectors.
Remember that obscure quote from the Ten Commandments? What was it?
"Thou shalt not kill!"
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